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03-11 12:33 AM
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hara_patta_for_rico
07-10 08:12 AM
It seems several persons are already discrediting the lawsuit and from the comments I have seen, it is apparent that some have not read the entire complaint.
In order to understand how a civil lawsuit works one needs to understand that in a complaint, one makes no legal arguments, does not cite case or precedent law but only cites the simple facts. The other side can respond to the complaint and deny or accept the allegations in part or in whole. Many cases do not go to trial, they end up in settlements or are decided through summary judgement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_judgment) (for the plaintiff or the defendants) if the case has undisputable matters of facts and one of the parties petitions for it. Several processes also take place ie Discovery long before an actual trial. I recommend reading the following wikipedia entry to familiarize one at a high level with the processes and rules involved:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Rule_of_Civil_Procedure
To get to the core legal arguments behind the case, one needs to read the counts (they are only stated and not argued/expounded on starting pg 13). Namely those are:
COUNT I: VIOLATION OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) (constitutional rights issue)
COUNT II: VIOLATION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_Procedures_Act)
COUNT III: DECLARATORY JUDGMENT ACT (http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title4/civ00036.htm)
COUNT IV: EQUAL ACCESS TO JUSTICE ACT (http://www.hhs.gov/dab/guidelines/eaja.html)
COUNT V: PROMISSORY ESTOPPEL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promissory_estoppel#Promissory_estoppel)
There are several laws cited above, its thus puzzling to see requests for one to cite the laws USCIS/DOS is accused of violating when its all there in the lawsuit. The plaintiff has the burden of proving the counts they have stated at the appropriate time and not in the complaint. One does not play all their cards in the initial complaint.
Even more puzzling is the persistent fear that there would be retributory action from USCIS. Judges do not take kindly to such behavior and USCIS would have no chance defending itself on charges of retaliatory actions.
Thank you for getting some sanity into the conversation....atleast some people are realising that actions, especially those perpetrated by Govt Agencies, are watched closely. They will be held accountable, whether one likes it or not . If the lawyers want to profit from all of this, let it be so, as long as the voice of a troubled community is heard in a court of law. That is just the first step....
In order to understand how a civil lawsuit works one needs to understand that in a complaint, one makes no legal arguments, does not cite case or precedent law but only cites the simple facts. The other side can respond to the complaint and deny or accept the allegations in part or in whole. Many cases do not go to trial, they end up in settlements or are decided through summary judgement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_judgment) (for the plaintiff or the defendants) if the case has undisputable matters of facts and one of the parties petitions for it. Several processes also take place ie Discovery long before an actual trial. I recommend reading the following wikipedia entry to familiarize one at a high level with the processes and rules involved:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Rule_of_Civil_Procedure
To get to the core legal arguments behind the case, one needs to read the counts (they are only stated and not argued/expounded on starting pg 13). Namely those are:
COUNT I: VIOLATION OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) (constitutional rights issue)
COUNT II: VIOLATION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_Procedures_Act)
COUNT III: DECLARATORY JUDGMENT ACT (http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title4/civ00036.htm)
COUNT IV: EQUAL ACCESS TO JUSTICE ACT (http://www.hhs.gov/dab/guidelines/eaja.html)
COUNT V: PROMISSORY ESTOPPEL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promissory_estoppel#Promissory_estoppel)
There are several laws cited above, its thus puzzling to see requests for one to cite the laws USCIS/DOS is accused of violating when its all there in the lawsuit. The plaintiff has the burden of proving the counts they have stated at the appropriate time and not in the complaint. One does not play all their cards in the initial complaint.
Even more puzzling is the persistent fear that there would be retributory action from USCIS. Judges do not take kindly to such behavior and USCIS would have no chance defending itself on charges of retaliatory actions.
Thank you for getting some sanity into the conversation....atleast some people are realising that actions, especially those perpetrated by Govt Agencies, are watched closely. They will be held accountable, whether one likes it or not . If the lawyers want to profit from all of this, let it be so, as long as the voice of a troubled community is heard in a court of law. That is just the first step....
jonty_11
12-13 04:06 PM
ALso, if u worked for a Client get the Client to write u a letter on Client Letter head stating u workind through Consulting COmpany ABC
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nomi
12-12 07:13 PM
nomi,
I am very surprised that there is not as much interest in this thread as I had expected but you are doing great in trying to explore this avenue. I wish I had some of the answers. Keep up the good work.
I will look into it. I think everyone should look into it and try to find some solution. All IV member sends so many fax to US Senate and called all Senators which was good effort from all of us. Now if we send six thousands fax to USCIS same day...Don`t you guy think that USCIS will notice our problems and discuss them in their enternal meeting and ask US Senate or Congress to discuss this issue as early as possible. I know IV is doing great job and I am with IV but all I am saying we should put some pressure on USCIS too so they can see we are in pain and they do their job to get us some relief.
If we do this then , USCIS will also support us too since we are right and we are asking some relief about green card.
Guys come on ...Think about it too. We can do it if IV approve it and everyone help. We should bother USCIS too about our issue so they can contact lawmakers and tell them about our pain. No body care if we don`t speak up.
Please tell me if we send 6000 fax same day don`t you think we will be in IV will be in headline and if we keeping doing same thing then some one will listen our issues and give us some temp. relief.
Please come and Take the lead in this regard and Request USCIS to give us some temp relief because there are lot of people and families suffering coz of this.
Please stop predicting Visa number everyone and deal with reality and stand up and speak about ou issue.
Tell me what don`t you guys think ??
thx.
I am very surprised that there is not as much interest in this thread as I had expected but you are doing great in trying to explore this avenue. I wish I had some of the answers. Keep up the good work.
I will look into it. I think everyone should look into it and try to find some solution. All IV member sends so many fax to US Senate and called all Senators which was good effort from all of us. Now if we send six thousands fax to USCIS same day...Don`t you guy think that USCIS will notice our problems and discuss them in their enternal meeting and ask US Senate or Congress to discuss this issue as early as possible. I know IV is doing great job and I am with IV but all I am saying we should put some pressure on USCIS too so they can see we are in pain and they do their job to get us some relief.
If we do this then , USCIS will also support us too since we are right and we are asking some relief about green card.
Guys come on ...Think about it too. We can do it if IV approve it and everyone help. We should bother USCIS too about our issue so they can contact lawmakers and tell them about our pain. No body care if we don`t speak up.
Please tell me if we send 6000 fax same day don`t you think we will be in IV will be in headline and if we keeping doing same thing then some one will listen our issues and give us some temp. relief.
Please come and Take the lead in this regard and Request USCIS to give us some temp relief because there are lot of people and families suffering coz of this.
Please stop predicting Visa number everyone and deal with reality and stand up and speak about ou issue.
Tell me what don`t you guys think ??
thx.
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fcres
07-23 04:15 PM
Well according to this FAQ dated 07/23 they will accept application without medical report (Qn# 13) which is also an initial evidence. So i hope EVL is also ok.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/EBFAQ1.pdf
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/EBFAQ1.pdf
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09-10 01:24 PM
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Would the Sys Admin know if you've done that? :D
when real player opens do the following:
click on tools->preferences->network transport->
then check the "manually configure connection settings"
click on RTSP settings and uncheck everything except "Attempt to use HTTP for all contents" click OK.
Next
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Enjoy!!
Would the Sys Admin know if you've done that? :D
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Dhundhun
06-28 11:17 PM
Gurus,
We have applied for 485 for four of our family members. Myself (Primary) and two kids got the welcome email on 06/25 and RFE email for my spouse application on 6/26. Haven't recvd any documents in mail to know the reason, but my questions to Gurus is
- How long will it take to get Card Ordered email after Welcome email. We havent recvd the welcome package in mail yet.
- Is there any relation between not getting Card Ordered email and RFE on my sopuse application.
- What could be the potential reason for RFE on my Spouse Application.
Thanks in advance.
EB2, PD:Jan'2004, July 2 Filer.
2 Weeks to 6 weeks.
RFE could be missing medical for example.
Usually, it does not stop other members getting GC.
We have applied for 485 for four of our family members. Myself (Primary) and two kids got the welcome email on 06/25 and RFE email for my spouse application on 6/26. Haven't recvd any documents in mail to know the reason, but my questions to Gurus is
- How long will it take to get Card Ordered email after Welcome email. We havent recvd the welcome package in mail yet.
- Is there any relation between not getting Card Ordered email and RFE on my sopuse application.
- What could be the potential reason for RFE on my Spouse Application.
Thanks in advance.
EB2, PD:Jan'2004, July 2 Filer.
2 Weeks to 6 weeks.
RFE could be missing medical for example.
Usually, it does not stop other members getting GC.
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nousername
11-13 02:13 PM
when was the last time you won a legal battel in 2 weeks/months/years time?
IV is acting like a desi politician.. paisa do and shut up..we know what we are doing....they refuse to even entertain such alternate remedies.
like i had said in my earlier post.. If you pay a BYTCH.. she will sing what you want to hear..hence the fake promises of CIR being a reality..and all.. (remember that 588x bill fiasco) and NOW we know..from the horses mouth.. CIR is dead for the near foreseeable future.
So i think we should pursue alternate reliefs with immediate effect.
just my 2cents.
With you on this bro.. You propose something and they ridicule you, you ask a question or question their intent they pull your thread off the main page and dump it someplace else..
Because of the above reasons I stopped donating (which I know they don't care, nor do I). I only visit this forum to help other members with their questions to which I might have an answer or share my experience, as like others even I have quite a lot of bad immigration experiences.
IV is acting like a desi politician.. paisa do and shut up..we know what we are doing....they refuse to even entertain such alternate remedies.
like i had said in my earlier post.. If you pay a BYTCH.. she will sing what you want to hear..hence the fake promises of CIR being a reality..and all.. (remember that 588x bill fiasco) and NOW we know..from the horses mouth.. CIR is dead for the near foreseeable future.
So i think we should pursue alternate reliefs with immediate effect.
just my 2cents.
With you on this bro.. You propose something and they ridicule you, you ask a question or question their intent they pull your thread off the main page and dump it someplace else..
Because of the above reasons I stopped donating (which I know they don't care, nor do I). I only visit this forum to help other members with their questions to which I might have an answer or share my experience, as like others even I have quite a lot of bad immigration experiences.
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sri1309
03-09 01:10 PM
Anyone for May 09 predictions???
Lets start diong something. I'll start writing atleast one letter everyday to anyone who can help us. I'll start with Zoe Lofgren who was so supportive for us, and everyday I'll be writing to Obama on Change.gov.
I'll really appreciate comments on this bulletin from all of us disappointed once again, but would also like to see what action we can taKe.
We need action now.. this is too much. Next month or 2, the dates will become U, and then we start dreaming about Oct 1st.. Not good approach..
Anyone.. what will you be doing different today to fix our issues????
Lets start diong something. I'll start writing atleast one letter everyday to anyone who can help us. I'll start with Zoe Lofgren who was so supportive for us, and everyday I'll be writing to Obama on Change.gov.
I'll really appreciate comments on this bulletin from all of us disappointed once again, but would also like to see what action we can taKe.
We need action now.. this is too much. Next month or 2, the dates will become U, and then we start dreaming about Oct 1st.. Not good approach..
Anyone.. what will you be doing different today to fix our issues????
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Anu119
01-11 11:36 AM
Hi:
I just joined the chapter.
Would love to be able to volnteer my services to this cause. How can I help? Also it may be a good idea to start a local support group for those of us in line waiting for this immigration hell to be over...may be a get together of some sort....
Wishin' for a better future ahead for all us immigration victims
PD for self: August 03
Labor Cert: pending
PD for husband: Dec 03
Labor Cert & I-140: appoved.
I just joined the chapter.
Would love to be able to volnteer my services to this cause. How can I help? Also it may be a good idea to start a local support group for those of us in line waiting for this immigration hell to be over...may be a get together of some sort....
Wishin' for a better future ahead for all us immigration victims
PD for self: August 03
Labor Cert: pending
PD for husband: Dec 03
Labor Cert & I-140: appoved.
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blewstream
06-09 02:35 AM
Any hopes of EB3 seeing 2003 in FY2010??
Its a very painful journey :eek:
Its a very painful journey :eek:
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smuggymba
03-12 11:12 AM
great job guys. There was no spillover and the dates did not become current and everyone is blaming IV. Stop contibuting to IV if they are the one's who were not able to make it current. Stop ranting like ladies in a kitty party.
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reddymjm
12-20 04:29 PM
He did not pay you. Thats all. don't worry about it. Even I know people who got GC's even with a real degree I mean completed degree even from INdia. Its all LUCK.
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immi_enthu
08-15 04:35 PM
yes but they will start processing the applications based on the receipt dates. so if a guy applied last year, he gets priority over last month's people. (that is assuming that his priority dates were current last year from him to apply!)
also they will need to do fingerprinting etc. and shall pass the FBI check before they get to final stage of adjudication. that would take 6 more months. so they should look at the bulletin at that time to see if they are eligible. dont get excited about these dates - they are not that helpful for the last month filers.
some people who applied in June may get approved if their PDs are current. July/ Aug filers unlikely
also they will need to do fingerprinting etc. and shall pass the FBI check before they get to final stage of adjudication. that would take 6 more months. so they should look at the bulletin at that time to see if they are eligible. dont get excited about these dates - they are not that helpful for the last month filers.
some people who applied in June may get approved if their PDs are current. July/ Aug filers unlikely
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perm2gc
01-10 12:12 PM
new forums and sites are here
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=16078&postcount=42
any volunteers?
volunteers to post in those above listed forums or to search forums ?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=16078&postcount=42
any volunteers?
volunteers to post in those above listed forums or to search forums ?
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frostrated
09-09 03:09 PM
For those of you thinking that EB3I will move forward once EB2 becomes current in the next year or so, please think again.
There are many EB2 I & C waiting to file their AOS applications. Anyone that missed the 2007 and 2008 windows, are eagerly waiting to file. It is estimated that there are a few thousand primary applicants in EB2 alone, each year from 2007 to 2010.
As a result, it is very unlikely that EB3 I will advance apart from its annual allocation of approximately 2800 visas. At the current rate, it will be three years before EB3 I 2002 is cleared, and many more years for the other years. In the meantime, there will be more applicants in EB2 category, thereby preventing your applications from being approved.
The options that lie before you are the passage of CIR, removal of country limits (which again is invariably tied to CIR), porting to EB2. The only option that is within your control is porting.
I would highly suggest that you use that option rather than rely on a change in law - a law that we have seen being dangled before us like a carrot for the past four years.
If you have been given a promotion or even offered one, take that. Contrary to what someone says about not being able to use experience in your current company, that is wrong to a certain extent. Experience in your current company in your current position cannot be used. But, experience in a different position in the same company can be used as experience to your EB2 status.
Take your promotion, and have the employer file a new labor petition. During the I-140 stage, port your EB3 priority date to your EB2 petition, and pretty much your 485 will be approved along with your 140, if not a few weeks after that (provided your PD is current).
Good luck in your porting. If you decide to wait until EB3I becomes current without porting, you are going to wait for a long time. I would suggest that anyone with a PD of Jan 2003+ to start your porting process. For the others, I'd suggest you wait it out as in the time it takes to do the porting, your 485 in EB3 will be approved.
There are many EB2 I & C waiting to file their AOS applications. Anyone that missed the 2007 and 2008 windows, are eagerly waiting to file. It is estimated that there are a few thousand primary applicants in EB2 alone, each year from 2007 to 2010.
As a result, it is very unlikely that EB3 I will advance apart from its annual allocation of approximately 2800 visas. At the current rate, it will be three years before EB3 I 2002 is cleared, and many more years for the other years. In the meantime, there will be more applicants in EB2 category, thereby preventing your applications from being approved.
The options that lie before you are the passage of CIR, removal of country limits (which again is invariably tied to CIR), porting to EB2. The only option that is within your control is porting.
I would highly suggest that you use that option rather than rely on a change in law - a law that we have seen being dangled before us like a carrot for the past four years.
If you have been given a promotion or even offered one, take that. Contrary to what someone says about not being able to use experience in your current company, that is wrong to a certain extent. Experience in your current company in your current position cannot be used. But, experience in a different position in the same company can be used as experience to your EB2 status.
Take your promotion, and have the employer file a new labor petition. During the I-140 stage, port your EB3 priority date to your EB2 petition, and pretty much your 485 will be approved along with your 140, if not a few weeks after that (provided your PD is current).
Good luck in your porting. If you decide to wait until EB3I becomes current without porting, you are going to wait for a long time. I would suggest that anyone with a PD of Jan 2003+ to start your porting process. For the others, I'd suggest you wait it out as in the time it takes to do the porting, your 485 in EB3 will be approved.
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eb3India
06-12 06:58 AM
so what, what does CIR offers for us, legal immigrants who are already here, give me one instance where Bush addresses our issue
he does'nt even know we exist
CIR fooled us twice guys, letz getover with it and try to find another way to have our provisions,
we certainly don't need sweeping legislative chance to reduce retrogression
he does'nt even know we exist
CIR fooled us twice guys, letz getover with it and try to find another way to have our provisions,
we certainly don't need sweeping legislative chance to reduce retrogression
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kutra
03-05 09:07 PM
Now is *exactly* the right time to buy a house (at least in California). The prices are not spiraling down (they've already hit bottom). The interest rates are low and prices are low.
Best of luck trying to hold on to a falling knife. Here's some CA RE data for you to consider since you have so confidently predicted the bottom...
- http://www.dqnews.com/
- http://www.housingtracker.net/
- http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm
(http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm)
Anyway, I am not getting into any argument about whether you are correct or wrong. As I said, best of luck buying a house at this *exact* moment. I only hope other CA residents (and everyone across the US) do their own research before buying a house. If this fits in with your risks, rewards, plans, finances, etc. then by all means, go for it.
Best of luck trying to hold on to a falling knife. Here's some CA RE data for you to consider since you have so confidently predicted the bottom...
- http://www.dqnews.com/
- http://www.housingtracker.net/
- http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm
(http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/26/real_estate/Case_Shiller_year_end/index.htm)
Anyway, I am not getting into any argument about whether you are correct or wrong. As I said, best of luck buying a house at this *exact* moment. I only hope other CA residents (and everyone across the US) do their own research before buying a house. If this fits in with your risks, rewards, plans, finances, etc. then by all means, go for it.
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02-27 03:07 PM
Hey guys,
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I need textures, you guys know any websites that offer free textures?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/subwaytes.jpg
just wanted to post a really early render of what I have so far. I'm kinda noob to 3d, unlike u guys, so gimme a break ;)
I need textures, you guys know any websites that offer free textures?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/grinchvader/subwaytes.jpg
sumansk
04-04 11:52 AM
Hello Guys..
Here is the summary of the H-1 B reform bill introduced last week in Senate..
God Bless All of 'US' !!
http://durbin.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=271783
Here is the summary of the H-1 B reform bill introduced last week in Senate..
God Bless All of 'US' !!
http://durbin.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=271783
vghc
07-03 12:40 PM
If you read my earlier response, you would not be asking me this question. Just to repeat myself, I completely agree with you that wives and kids should not be included to the EB GC quota!
Fine...then there's a comon ground......:)
I don't like this Indian,China vs the ROW talk. Its just bloody depressing.
Fine...then there's a comon ground......:)
I don't like this Indian,China vs the ROW talk. Its just bloody depressing.
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